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NEWS: Japan’s CODA, Companies From 12 Other Countries to Form International Anti-Piracy Organization [1/4] – Forum

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View previous topic :: View next topic   Writer Message vgiannell5

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:43 pm Reply with quote
They will by no means get the outcomes they need with this new group. It is a waste of money and time. To not point out there shall be protests and backlash towards it. These firms won’t ever be taught. Evil or Very Mad
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Donkey-er

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:18 pm Reply with quote

vgiannell5 wrote:
They will by no means get the outcomes they need with this new group. It is a waste of money and time. To not point out there shall be protests and backlash towards it. These firms won’t ever be taught. Evil or Very Mad

I believe even getting information like this out to the general public will scare a portion of the inhabitants off to an extent. Possibly not fully, however nonetheless shopping for books/dvds. As for eliminating piracy all collectively, you are fully proper.


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ErikaD.D

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:50 pm Reply with quote

So meaning all non-legal manga and anime websites will find yourself shuting down due to it? That makes me apprehensive, as a result of most authorized manga websites are nonetheless inaccessible(MangaPlus exist but it surely has solely 3 first and final chapters, which is unhealthy). Ditto anime websites (-cough- Funimation).

Piracy unhealthy however area locked ”good”.

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High Gun

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:24 pm Reply with quote

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In keeping with Nikkei Asia, piracy value the manga business roughly 800 billion yen (US$6.92 billion) in Japan alone from January-October 2021. Nikkei Asia acknowledged that quantity exceeds the quantity of all the marketplace for licensed publications, which it estimated at 600 billion yen (about US$5.19 billion) yearly.

*claps* Downloads. Do. Not. Equal. Misplaced. Gross sales. How the hell are firms nonetheless pushing this ridiculous fable in 2021? Hell, torrenting issues over time has wound up making me spend considerably extra than if I hadn’t downloaded them.

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c933103

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:28 pm Reply with quote

ErikaD.D wrote:

So meaning all non-legal manga and anime websites will find yourself shuting down due to it? That makes me apprehensive, as a result of most authorized manga websites are nonetheless inaccessible(MangaPlus exist but it surely has solely 3 first and final chapters, which is unhealthy). Ditto anime websites (-cough- Funimation).

Piracy unhealthy however area locked ”good”.

Properly this affiliation can be region-locked to 13 nations.

Though they’ve tried to make use of diplomatic strain.to.press different nations into prosecuting piracy website operator earlier than

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:41 pm Reply with quote

High Gun wrote:
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In keeping with Nikkei Asia, piracy value the manga business roughly 800 billion yen (US$6.92 billion) in Japan alone from January-October 2021. Nikkei Asia acknowledged that quantity exceeds the quantity of all the marketplace for licensed publications, which it estimated at 600 billion yen (about US$5.19 billion) yearly.

*claps* Downloads. Do. Not. Equal. Misplaced. Gross sales. How the hell are firms nonetheless pushing this ridiculous fable in 2021? Hell, torrenting issues over time has wound up making me spend considerably extra than if I hadn’t downloaded them.

Many in Japan agree with the concept unlawful downloading is stealing. Even when it would not lead to any losses from the unique writer. Even in instances the place it was initially out there totally free and the writer is distributing it with out income. They nonetheless assume it’s legal for others to redistribute them via elsewhere. They assume the act of pirating is morally unsuitable and even when it assist boosted their fame and their income they nonetheless assume that is one thing that’s damaging ought to by no means occur. In all probability a purpose why many Japanese artists undertake NFT as these token of possession to a hyperlink of copy of a picture looks as if a respectable concept within the eyes of quite a lot of Japanese individuals. Three years in the past Japanese authorities have tried to argue piracy broken creators human proper because it threaten their life, and thus web censorship is required to guard creators from piracy websites, as a result of their proper to outlive as a Japanese nationwide is extra vital than the nation’s structure safety on freedom of communication and so they assume piracy is ruining that. On the time most polls in Japan reveals majority of Japanese individuals assist such transfer. Only some authorized specialists voiced concern on technicalities of such approach to bypass the nationwide structure.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:01 pm Reply with quote
Additionally Japan: refuses to make sure digital content material available for purchase outdoors the nation for no good purpose in any respect. I do not even imply anime, I imply manga, books, music, audio dramas… Right here I’m, attempting to pay cash for the merchandise, and so they merely refuse to let me do it. As such, at present I am really buying them illegally, as ridiculous as that sounds, to not point out risking my very own knowledge privateness, since I’ve to VPN my approach in to have the ability to purchase within the shops that enable me to make use of a not Japanese-issued card.

To not point out, in terms of digital content material Japan continues to be pushing individuals towards bodily! Some magazines have print-only content material. Ebooks and audio content material could also be nonetheless launched weeks or months after bodily launch. Ebooks are DRM’d to hell and again and might solely be learn in proprietary apps, say goodbye to e book readers (apart of Kindle I assume, however I would not know, as Amazon.jp would not enable me to purchase digital content material). And so forth and so forth.

So frankly, I am sick and bored with this “omg however piracy” factor. Is piracy an issue? Possibly, I suppose. However let’s not faux that a minimum of a part of that drawback is Japan not with the ability to develop a twenty first century mindset and conserving its content material unavailable from outdoors the nation.


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Kruszer

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:13 pm Reply with quote
They’ll co-operate for this subsequent Hydra hunt to prosecute and sue pirates for cash, however not some type of worldwide library group which interprets media free to the general public that might really be useful to combating a number of piracy however would not make them a lot cash. I see how this works Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:39 pm Reply with quote

High Gun wrote:
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In keeping with Nikkei Asia, piracy value the manga business roughly 800 billion yen (US$6.92 billion) in Japan alone from January-October 2021. Nikkei Asia acknowledged that quantity exceeds the quantity of all the marketplace for licensed publications, which it estimated at 600 billion yen (about US$5.19 billion) yearly.

*claps* Downloads. Do. Not. Equal. Misplaced. Gross sales. How the hell are firms nonetheless pushing this ridiculous fable in 2021? Hell, torrenting issues over time has wound up making me spend considerably extra than if I hadn’t downloaded them.

They’re nonetheless on pushing it as a result of it is true. YOU may purchase extra because of your torrenting however that’s not the case majority of the time, nor has it ever been. *clap clap*

I am no fan of area locking myself, and I do assume the varied manga distributors and corporations have to do extra to essentially make on-line fashions work higher and be extra far reaching. There’s additionally the difficulty of working situations. I nevertheless nonetheless can’t fault them for attempting to guard their merchandise and enterprise income.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:46 pm Reply with quote

It is a pure anticipated suggestions for the overflow of backfeeding that is been happening for a while now. Nonetheless, an equipoise shall be realized once more.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:50 pm Reply with quote
So, that is like, what number of instances “they” have tried this?

Pardon my cynicism, however I’ve seen ’em come and I’ve seen ’em go.

I’m not too involved.

In principle, I do assume artists ought to receives a commission for his or her work.

I do assume firms that get me great things ought to make a revenue.

And in actuality, I additionally discover utilizing ‘different means’ to be a much bigger ache than

I wish to take care of. Sad

However, I consider we outdoors of Japan are a small proportion of the fandom, and among the

different means stuff simply comes with being in such a scenario. I do not prefer it, however IMHO

that’s how it’s.

Simply my two cents price.


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Hoppy800

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:29 pm Reply with quote

c933103 wrote:
High Gun wrote:
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In keeping with Nikkei Asia, piracy value the manga business roughly 800 billion yen (US$6.92 billion) in Japan alone from January-October 2021. Nikkei Asia acknowledged that quantity exceeds the quantity of all the marketplace for licensed publications, which it estimated at 600 billion yen (about US$5.19 billion) yearly.

*claps* Downloads. Do. Not. Equal. Misplaced. Gross sales. How the hell are firms nonetheless pushing this ridiculous fable in 2021? Hell, torrenting issues over time has wound up making me spend considerably extra than if I hadn’t downloaded them.

Many in Japan agree with the concept unlawful downloading is stealing. Even when it would not lead to any losses from the unique writer. Even in instances the place it was initially out there totally free and the writer is distributing it with out income. They nonetheless assume it’s legal for others to redistribute them via elsewhere. They assume the act of pirating is morally unsuitable and even when it assist boosted their fame and their income they nonetheless assume that is one thing that’s damaging ought to by no means occur. In all probability a purpose why many Japanese artists undertake NFT as these token of possession to a hyperlink of copy of a picture looks as if a respectable concept within the eyes of quite a lot of Japanese individuals. Three years in the past Japanese authorities have tried to argue piracy broken creators human proper because it threaten their life, and thus web censorship is required to guard creators from piracy websites, as a result of their proper to outlive as a Japanese nationwide is extra vital than the nation’s structure safety on freedom of communication and so they assume piracy is ruining that. On the time most polls in Japan reveals majority of Japanese individuals assist such transfer. Only some authorized specialists voiced concern on technicalities of such approach to bypass the nationwide structure.

NFTs are reviled by regular individuals, particularly westerners and so they take the enjoyable out of every thing they contact save for uber costly effective artwork for millionaires and billionaires. I particularly do not respect them within the Vtuber and idol communities. I additionally doubt most Japanese assist NFTs both.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:51 pm Reply with quote

SHD wrote:
Additionally Japan: refuses to make sure digital content material available for purchase outdoors the nation for no good purpose in any respect. I do not even imply anime, I imply manga, books, music, audio dramas… Right here I’m, attempting to pay cash for the merchandise, and so they merely refuse to let me do it. As such, at present I am really buying them illegally, as ridiculous as that sounds, to not point out risking my very own knowledge privateness, since I’ve to VPN my approach in to have the ability to purchase within the shops that enable me to make use of a not Japanese-issued card.

To not point out, in terms of digital content material Japan continues to be pushing individuals towards bodily! Some magazines have print-only content material. Ebooks and audio content material could also be nonetheless launched weeks or months after bodily launch. Ebooks are DRM’d to hell and again and might solely be learn in proprietary apps, say goodbye to e book readers (apart of Kindle I assume, however I would not know, as Amazon.jp would not enable me to purchase digital content material). And so forth and so forth.

So frankly, I am sick and bored with this “omg however piracy” factor. Is piracy an issue? Possibly, I suppose. However let’s not faux that a minimum of a part of that drawback is Japan not with the ability to develop a twenty first century mindset and conserving its content material unavailable from outdoors the nation.

I believe they see it as their proper to restrict their content material availability

Like a sure novel launch 8 completely different quick tales per volumes on common. However they’re out there in 8 completely different bodily chain shops in Japan solely. So it’s good to purchase 8 copies of the novel from 8 completely different bodily shops everytime a brand new quantity is launched to learn all the tales. They usually assume it’s a sustainable development technique that can enable them to promote extra books.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:00 pm Reply with quote

c933103 wrote:

I believe they see it as their proper to restrict their content material availability

Like a sure novel launch 8 completely different quick tales per volumes on common. However they’re out there in 8 completely different bodily chain shops in Japan solely. So it’s good to purchase 8 copies of the novel from 8 completely different bodily shops everytime a brand new quantity is launched to learn all the tales. They usually assume it’s a sustainable development technique that can enable them to promote extra books.

Not likely comparable. In your instance, dwelling in Japan, nothing’s stopping you from shopping for the completely different editions. In case you’re region-blocked outdoors Japan, that is not potential.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:16 pm Reply with quote

Blanchimont wrote:
c933103 wrote:

I believe they see it as their proper to restrict their content material availability

Like a sure novel launch 8 completely different quick tales per volumes on common. However they’re out there in 8 completely different bodily chain shops in Japan solely. So it’s good to purchase 8 copies of the novel from 8 completely different bodily shops everytime a brand new quantity is launched to learn all the tales. They usually assume it’s a sustainable development technique that can enable them to promote extra books.

Not likely comparable. In your instance, dwelling in Japan, nothing’s stopping you from shopping for the completely different editions. In case you’re region-blocked outdoors Japan, that is not potential.

Outdoors giant cities, to go to all of the eligible bookstores, that’d take numerous journey to succeed in all of the sfores, it is not like all of them have branches in all of the cities, and the fiscal and time value of doing so would not essentially be cheaper than a foreigner flying to Tokyo to assemble all of them. Properly through the pandemic it is an exception.

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